Maps, Directions, and Place Reviews
System Failure?
Has anyone figured out about the Playstation 3's system failures? There seems to be problems when turning on the system, as it shows a blinking red light, and makes 3 beeps. 72.83.118.187 00:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
XMB
Shouldn't the text "XMB Cross Bar" under the screenshot of the XMB interface be changed to "XMB Cross Media Bar" as XMB means Cross Media Bar? --213.66.62.73 21:15, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Correct
Nice catch. I edited it to say Cross Media Bar now. TeamOverload 18:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
criticism
previous discussion is archived .
Should this be included in the criticism section? --86.141.107.165 10:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget that Wii has no Blu-Ray support.
US$?
previous discussion is archived .
I am "removing" vat taxes using the linear scalar User:Dpmarshall did for the Nintendo Wii. If this is inaccurate, please change it and tell me why here. Thanks. --gatoatigrado 08:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't know VAT that well, someone tell me if this is a good assumption. It gives about the same value as price / vat though (I think only one value changed when rounding to the nearest $10).
"vat" here is actually "1 + vat".
- retail price = retailer purchase price * vat + retailer profit
- consumer price (not shown) = retailer purchase price * vat + retailer profit * vat
- adjusted retail price (goal) = retailer purchase price + retailer profit
the formula I am using in a spreadsheet is =(B2-10)/(1+$E2)+10. I think the retail profit will be around $10, based on ars technica's revealing of Wii and Xbox 360 prices, and their logical assumption with its expensive hardware, the PlayStation 3 will be a "pull" marketing strategy. for rounding =ROUND(G2/10, 0) * 10. $10 is an easier increment to read. --gatoatigrado 09:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
As for the conversions being the USD, I think it makes sense as many of the world's largest businesses are based in the currency. OnionHead 19:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
PS3 Linux Nintendo Emulation
Here is someone running a nintendo emulator on a PS3 running linux. It looks pretty sweet! [4]
PS3 image
previous discussion is archived .
Although I sincerely despise Mr Voluntarist's ad hominem attacks, I think the point about the detail in the other image is good. I cropped the image, and then enhanced it a bit. I uploaded it to my website. Feel free to upload it to Wikipedia if you think either one is better. I do like the colors and extreme black in the current image. [5]. [6]. --gatoatigrado 02:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
The silver PS3, much maligned but nobody could replace it with a copyright free image, now people are playing the console will we still be stuck with a prototype image that everyone wanted to get rid of?. Anyone got a digital camera and a PS3, long shot I know.--Notagoodname 01:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC) FyiFoff 23:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
PS3 colors
Is there any information about when the silver and chrome PS3 will be out? And did the 100,000 units in Japan all come in black as well? FyiFoff FyiFoff 23:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC) The silver abd chrome trim is only for the 60gb
20GB PS3 UK price
Where does this £375 figure come from? I've only heard "£350 or less" and even then the euro price is £335. Should it be changed?New*allusion 19:02, 10 October 2006 (GMT)
Yellow Dog Linux
It should be noted the current version of Yellow Dog 5.0 for the PS3 does not currently support the PS3's 3D graphic chip.
previous discussion is archived .
free download
http://arstechnica.com/articles/columns/linux/linux-20061018.ars/2
This is only correct for hardware accelerated operations. The GPU is completely programmable through the X11 fb lib, you just need to know how to do it. The access to the gfx chip is completely available, as would be for a normal PS3 game developer.
Next day street value
i've heard that street value (ebay and such) for the ps3 for the day after it comes out is going to be $5,000 and up much like the 360 was, i've also heard that the wii will go to $3,000 because of limited supplies in the US, can anyone confirm or shoot this down? Cubanaso 21:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
At least 1 PS3 went for $9100USD on ebay to an american customer.
About the nintendo Wii thing, this is false. As Nintendo has constantly said that there will be enough Wii's for the pre-orders AND enough to just walk in and grab one Zabrak 05:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
There is a 60 GB version which i have seen that sells for about RM 4200 (about US$1150) and a 20 GB version that sells for RM3500 (about US$960). Any takers?--Cyhborg 04:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Quantatity available to Amazon.com at shipment?
Does anyone know how many units that Amazon.com is expected to have on the release date of November 19, 2006? Midessa 22:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)10/25/2006
Is the PS3 capable to use Windows Vista?
Hi everyone. I got a question about the PS3. I read in a magazine that the PS3 will include Linux and, because of the Cell processor, the Sony console was going to be capable of using Windows Vista. Is this really possible? Can the PS3 support vista and work correctly? And another question: I read that the PS3 uses 256 XDR Ram memory. Is it possible to cange the RAM memory (for having more power)and, where can I get the XDR Ram memory systems? What´s the difference between XDR RAM and DDR RAM? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.77.37.165 (talk o contribs) .
minor information
- the ps3 supports important modern audio and video codecs, than its competitors [7]
- the ps3 will support the standardized HDMI port (no proprietary cables) and the same AV port as the PlayStation 2 [8]
watts
i read on the internet that the ps3 consumes 380 watts.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=356 --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Falcon866 (talk o contribs) .
Launch Date Shortage
There has been a lot of discussion about the a shortage in the supply of the PS3's on its launching date of 11/17. I saw this posted on the Google Maps Mania Blog - www.ps3seeker.com. It's a Google Maps mash-up of locations where the PS3 will be sold on opening dates, and also marks all of the midnight launch locations. Seems like it would be a useful tool for those trying to get their hands on a PS3.
Eugene a 22:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Umm ... 18 bestbuys only ? Are you insane, if anything that number says the BestBuy stores that are opening midnight to sell it. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.48.33.98 (talk o contribs) 16:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Some suggested improvements to the article
I have two suggested improvements to the article. The first is where it says:
"The PlayStation 3, unlike the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 systems[citation needed], is based on open and publicly available application programming interfaces. The PlayStation 3 development kit system distributed by Sony was recently praised by IGN as having "distinct lack of noise and heat coming from the system". Despite earlier rumours of programming being difficult..."
What the heck is that bold sentence doing there? We have two sentences describing the open APIs and standards used by the PS3 and we'll slip in some stupid gaming site's comments about how quiet and cool it runs?
Secondly where it says:
"In response to Microsoft's successful Xbox Live network, Sony announced a unified online service for the Pl"
The idea that the PS3's online capabilities exceeding the PS2s is in response to Xbox live is purely speculative. It'd be like saying "after having conniptions over the original Xbox all being equipped with a hard drive, Sony decided to make hard drives standard on the PS3". Unless a Sony representative goes on the record saying that the PS3's online capabilities would have been the same as the PS2's or less had Xbox live never been created, this sentence is just speculation.
A more accurate one would be. The PS3 will launch with more ambitious online capabilities than the PS2 with each unit broadband ready out of the box for an always on blah blah blah blah. These features which haven't been given a specific name will put the PS3 in direct competition in the online gaming space with the Xbox 360 and it's Xbox Live online service.
It's true any online capability of the PS3 is going to be related to Xbox live in that they are competitors but to assume any more information on the "why's" is speculation. I suck at wording sentences but I hope if enough people agree with my point of view here that some changes might get worked in eventually.
Also as a sub note. It says Linux will come pre-installed on the HDD? Why is there no source for that? I never heard that. Esper256 23:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I think it is important for the consumer, if they actually care, that the PS3 will be quiet and will be relatively cool, because if some people want to play at night, when other people in the apartment/house are sleeping, they don't want to get yelled at by them because they are being kept up, also, if it is relatively cool, I think some consumers would buy it because they could play it during the summer without their cooling bill getting a little bit higher. Amish Gramish 07:23, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Another hardware question
hey, i got another doubt. The PS3 has bluetooth, right, then it means that we can synchronize(did i say it right?)or connect via bluetooth our devices like cell phones, MP3 players, iPods and stuff like that, right? I just want to know one thing, i tried to get the USB headset for the PS2 but it´s almost impossible. Is there any way to use a cellphone bluetooth headset instead the USB headset?
- Assuming bad faith generally applies to articles, where a user will revert the changes of another. Disagreeing on certain points is not forbidden.
- The dispute between Lighthouse and mattb had been going on for a while.
- mattb said things such as, Expecting support for "any USB device" is ridiculous, asserts a handful of USB devices (are not HID or mass storage compatible devices without reference / research) and previously criticized LighthouseJ for his ego. On one level, I can see where he's coming from, and his points are generally rather well informed. However, it's not particularly effective and exaggerating facts to make a point doesn't particularly go well with me.
- Lighthouse said any usb device is connectible, and previously called the people developing the Xbox 360 system "stupid" and "short sighted".
- I said, please stop the personal attacks. Is that really that unkind?
- mattb and I discussed this; there is no real argument that has come between us and I don't wish to discuss this further.
Release date and pricing section
Who cares about release dates and pricing in the UK? Slim down the UK references, increase the North American references and move up the Japanese ones. The market for PS3 here and in Japan is much larger, so these two locations should be highlighted first. Scott 110 02:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Whoever said this first, has a very small minded opinion. This article is in English, and the English language originates from England, We should have our information there aswell as other countries. Secondly i am confused about is that a lot of places say that the PS3 is due for launch on march 7th, for example http://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/1032615/-/Product.html?searchstring=PS3&searchsource=0, however, in the article it is listed as March 1st. is this because Australisia and Europe have different release dates? Thanks!
FA status
I think so....Yeah hopefully it will reach this status around Launch Time. :D Zabrak 20:12, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
The software development needs to be more than a list in prose. How should this be accomplished? I don't think it should be lost; it is decent information. --gatoatigrado 18:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
First PS3 Game Case Shots. See the physical packaging for PlayStation 3 games up close and personal.
You can thank me later - http://ps3.ign.com/articles/743/743937p1.html Zabrak 17:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
actually, I really don't care. stop aggrandizing everything you say. Why are you vandalizing this article? We already decided not to add box art. If you have a substantial argument, perhaps the decision can be changed. The other stupid image for criticism is entirely inappropriate. --gatoatigrado 07:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
vandalizing the article? Okay idiot for one I am by no means vandalizing the article, ifact I am (hopefully) going to buy the PS3 in March, alright? For two you got 10 hours to tell me how i am vandalizing the article with the box art, or that its, It STAYS. Zabrak 17:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
games
Bladestorm is not a shooter - please correct this. (hello is anyone there?)
Stop Vandalism
I think i´m talking for everybody. Please, stop erasing the articles, do you have any idea of how much time we need to post our opinions and doubts? There were more than 57 doubt or opinions. So please, stop vandalism now!!!
The Boomerang Controller
Whatever happened to that boomerang controller that the first pictures of the PS3 had? Dylanga 19:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Let me put it this way. It was ugly and not easy to handle while playing games. I highly doubt that any PS loving being would be happy witht the fact the the controller looked like it orginate from Australia ( I miss my home). Sure quite good for thorowing purposes but not good for fighting game where much button clicking action is needed. Le Raine
DVDs will not be upscaled
Is there anywhere on this article to say that there will be NO upscaling for DVDs? --Jack Zhang 02:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's a pity because the scalers in most monitors are pretty atrotious. Something like the PS3 should have enough spare horsepower, when running PS/PS2 games and DVDs, to run a nice scaling algorithm. Sockatume 00:44, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
word. Speaking about controllers, no rumble in controller? Big set back. And why dont they realize that placing the left joystick where the 'd-pad' should would be better. (thumb would not streched out as far.) kind of like the 360
Afrika
New games are coming. One of them has the working title Afrika. There is an article here in Wikipedia about it, and it says that rumours says it to be a photographing game.
Add it, please. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Conc3pt (talk o contribs) 16:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
comparison of consoles
Comparison of seventh-generation game consoles is actually a rather fact oriented article. it should be added back unless there is a significant point against it, and a larger see also is often helpful in articles. thank you all. --24.7.86.143 03:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Criticism - Vote for removal
Having a criticism subject for this wiki doesn't seem appropriate. The xbox 360, nintendo wii do not have a section like this and it's obvious they have both recieved their own fair amount of it. Such as the wii being underpowered compared to 360/ps3 with no high defintion and the xbox/360 for having an online service that is close to a necessity to pay for, obviously there are more but I would rather not turn this into a flame/console war. Could a registered user please start a vote ? It seems highly biased and almost non-factual for the reason it's based on consumer/reviewer etc. opinions. Thank You. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.48.33.98 (talk o contribs) 17:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
I thinkthat a criticism section would be ok if we added one to the Wii and 360 pages Jordan0042 21:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I deleted the criticism section, poorly written, no citations, and blatently bias, I think we need to lock this page again--evangelion883
uh, shouldn't criticism be bias?--- Cry On 21:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Folding@home proyect
Ok gentlemen, here´s a good question I want to make Why the PS3 will be part of the Folding@home proyect? I read a little bit about that proyect, but I still don´t understand why the PS3 will be used for this proyect. Can someone explain me?
Locked
Can someone add an extermal link to www.myInstantAlerts.com
the page is ....locked, but someone needs to fix the launch titles:
new info: http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=7200 --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.4.140 (talk o contribs) .
(sorry by the mess if a caused some) in the corrections of the launch titles, is important to notice that "heavy rain" is a tech demo (as described in wikipedia) and not a action title. i would worth mention it as in a section of capabilities of the hardware, or, something related.
Official User's Guide
Looks like SONY digitalized the PS3 manual --Ragnarok Addict 16:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/index.html
Typos
In the Hardware Summary section:
The PS3's 3.2 GHz Cell processor, developed jointly by Sony, Toshiba and IBM ("SIT"),
The correct acronym is "STI".
That is now fixed TeamOverload 18:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Europe Release Date Now Unconfirmed
Should we change the Europe Release date details to unconfirmed or something like that. Sony has now stated that they can not confirm the EU launch will be in March 07: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/745/745210p1.html TeamOverload 18:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Great for us Europeans who've remained faithful to Sony, I doubt we'll even get a 2% discount on prices either. It's rather pathetic.
Someone Vandalised It Again
Someone had deleted the talk page and replaced it with Hi Cheese. I have now restored it, but this NEEDS TO STOP. TeamOverload 18:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
removing the "future product label"
can somebody removes the "future product" label, as PS3 will be released in just about 2 hours (11 Nov, 7.00AM Japanese time) --147.197.190.40 19:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
request for information
I don't know if anyone here is getting a PlayStation 3, but I am interested how much access Linux has to the RSX. yellow dog is running on e17, which isn't accelerated (as far as I know), so that doesn't give any clues. Thanks. --gatoatigrado 01:44, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
launch delays
I think the PAL launch delays are because they must start making PAL PS3's, and the unconfirmed Europe release date would be due to sony wanting a lot more consoles ready for Europe then they did for Japan.
Japanese 60GB price
according to BBC.co.uk, the price of 60GB PS3 is 60000 Yen. And please, could somebody removes "FUTURE PRODUCTS" label, because PS3 was released last night and it is no longer unreleased product--147.197.190.40 11:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
bladestorm
any chance of getting Bladestorm:the hundred years war put under the correct heading in the games section? It is not a shooter at all...
intro
"SCEA will determine ten applicants to attend a Launch Party in Los Angeles on November 8, 2006. (). SCEA has also confirmed that New York City will be hosting a PlayStation 3 launch party which will be hosted by rapper artist Ludacris; joining him will be D-Nice and comedian Charlie Murphy.[7] SCEA also confirms that only the first 400 will be admitted to purchase PlayStation 3."
In the overall scheme of things - is this relevant? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.100.174.230 (talk o contribs) .
Memory speed
In the article, it says that the GDDR3 is clocked at 550 MHz, which makes sense as that would be synced with the GPU at 550 Mhz, but this (Admittedly old) BBC article mentions it as 700 Mhz. Could we get a reliable citation for either the 550 or 700 Mhz figure? -FrYGuY 17:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
there have been a number of reports on net that sony insiders a reporting a rsx mem speed dropped to 650mhz from 700mhz, along with core speed drop from 550mhz to 500mhz. Nothing offical yet, changes are looking likely.
Backwards Compatibility and region locking
I just got off the phone with Sony America and the CSR told me that PS1 and PS2 games will play on the PS3 regardless of region code. This is in direct conflict with the current state of the "Backwards Compatibility" section of the main article. Does anyone else have any more information? Should this be changed on the main page? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 147.140.12.128 (talk o contribs) .
This is offical.
On Tuesday, the company acknowledged the console won't run some of the 8,000 titles designed for previous PlayStations -- even though the PlayStation 3 was billed as being fully compatible with older-generation games.
For instance, the PS3 might not play background music to the popular "Tekken 5" combat game, and some scenes from the "Gran Tourismo" racing game might freeze, according to Sony. The game "Suikoden III" can't read data from a first-generation PlayStation, while a virtual gun in one of the "Biohazard" games won't fire properly.
Some older games won't run on the PS3 at all, according to Sony Computer Entertainment spokesman Satoshi Fukuoka. Online upgrades of the PS3 software will be offered, but it's unlikely that all the problems will ever get fixed, he said.
Some had edited the "Backwards Compatability" section to read something about "yeah right" or sometihng alone those lines. So i added a little bit to make it at least productive. -- AllTeam 20 November 2006 (UTC)
PS3 Linux
Could some one please add a link to pslinux.org ? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.25.134.169 (talk o contribs) .
More info on this can be found at the following links.
http://www.powerdeveloper.org/playstation.php
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ps3-compatibility
http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/lu_zero/timeline Ceros 01:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
What Browser is the PS3 using?
Ok, to AnyOne that has a PS3 and has the web browser working on it, Please go to a site using the built-in web browser that tells the User Agent string of the browser! Please, I want to know if Sony used an existing browser as a base or what exactly is reported. I have a page (Hopefully my server can handle the traffic) that will tell most of the information, and I can check the rest in my apache access logs. Report all the information here. --Jdm64 01:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I found someone that has a PS3 and got the information about the built in web browser. The user agent string is "Mozilla/5.0 (PLAYSTATION 3; 1.00)" and some other information about it is: http/1.1; identity encoding; keep-alive; en. Also, javascript is enabled. --Jdm64 23:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Use the Browser Mirror from Central Ops. It should give you all the information you need. The URL is http://centralops.net/asp/co/BrowserMirror.vbs.asp. Ceros 01:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
It also has a flash plugin that works (poorly) with youtube. someone w/ editing priv's should add that and citation-needed 18.243.6.38 05:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
That it has 'Mozilla' at the beginning of the UA string doesn't mean much - IE and Opera's UA's also start 'Mozilla'. Also Gecko browsers usually expressly say Gecko in the UA, with the build date and engine version: ...rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010... It might be provable if someone could assemble some test pages that only a Gecko browser would render correctly (maybe XUL?), and then see if the PS3 browser could render them.
criticism
As a counterpoint to the small criticism section in the article is it worth noting (in the article) that the PS3 is the most computationally powerful home consumer device available at present - being at least twice as 'fast' as any dual core PC (and cheaper). ?
- Always remember WP:OR when writing criticism sections and rebuttals to them. Sockatume 20:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
People that compare traditional non-multicore development and platforms to multicore development and platforms are being quite silly. There is no sense comparing apples with oranges. To get the most from any device, you need to develop specifically for that device, and through various research papers: - http://www.research.ibm.com/people/a/ashwini/E3%202005%20Cell%20Blade%20reports/TRE%20demo%20-%20final.pdf - http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20050425/104149/?ST=english - http://www.advancedimagingpro.com/publication/article.jsp?pubId=1&id=2630 Its not a matter of looking at the Cell and determining if it is fast to run your favourite scalar, linear application, because that is a pointless and irrelevant test. Like running MSHearts to test the performance of a platform. You need to develop and compare real world solutions to real world problems with the hardware, and in this manner, the Cell has shown many times that it is a factor better than any consumer level commodity devices, and even higher performing than many specialized systems. For its price, the PS3 is a substantial computing device in comparison to anything else available to the normal consumer.
Cell is MIMD as a chip. It is also SIMD per processing unit. --gatoatigrado 04:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Having a bunch of fast, simple SIMD hardware only increases "computational power" by one metric. By another (as I have already explained), it may be a drawback. Your statement is only true as regards Cell in cases where high floating point performance is needed (this is not necessarily the case with games) and more importantly, where the task obviously parallizable (games traditionally are not, at least to the full extent afforded by Cell). You seem to be holding on to the false assumption that extra computational ability in any form is useful for any and all purposes and that computer ability is defined by a single metric and is application-agnostic. The most you can say tersely about Cell that is absolutely true is what I have already said and gatoatigrado has reiterated: Cell is MIMD-on-a-chip. That may or may not be a good thing depending on the application; it even remains to be seen whether it will be a good thing in a video game console. Having all the capability in the world is useless if it can't easily be utilized in applications where it may be needed (reminds me of the iAPX 432). Therefore you absolutely can not carry on a discussion of a computer's general ability without an application context.
Whatever the case may be, including this would result in a big deviation from this article's topic. The statement you want to make is simply not generally true and the statement that I would be happy with (regarding MIMD-on-a-chip) has no context in this article and would require a sizable explanation that is unnecessary here.
P.S. - As an aside, there are various projects out there that actually do use the GPU for more general purpose computational tasks. -- mattb @ 2006-11-14T04:55Z
european launch
It says "unconfirmed" under the march 2007 date, and this is clearly the wrong word. The release is March 2007, this is 100% true and confirmed. Sure, it may not make the deadline of March but to say that it is unconfirmed makes it sound like speculation, when it is an official date given by Sony and recently backed up by saying they are still set for March 2007 release. [14]
People, has there been any probelms with the PS3?
Seriously people, it's been almost 4 days since the launch of the Playtation 3 and there has been NO mainstream problems with the PlayStation 3, a HUGE difference compared to the xbox 360. Zabrak 00:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Shut the hell up Matt, for one I am clearly aware of this, for two that rule does bend on certain occasians, such as Deaths of notable people, travesties, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
ALSO this can be put in either the xbox 360 article OR the Playstation 3 article in one way or another. Zabrak 02:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
glitches reported.
[16]
[17]
this should probably be placed in the article. 200 titles is huge, with big name games like final fantasy being involved. dposse 14:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
However, 200 titles out of over 7500 is not much (less than 3%, with alot of these 200 games being counted more than once for NTSC and PAL versions). Although this issue has received alot of negative media attention, I don't think it qualifies as fact, and I don't feel that any specifications or Sony quotes should be edited on this. Cmsjustin 15:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I think we should wait for the US version of this page to come out, then (unless anyone thinks Wikipedia needs its own version), it should be linked to. [18]. --gatoatigrado 20:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
top selling game
how can the ps3 have a top selling game when its not out yet? --Jordan0042 22:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
nevermindJordan0042 22:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Important information
OK, I'll take the information that I submitted about the Playstation 3 having the backward compability of None off, because you corrected me on that. I would never hurt Wikipedia. I'm a new user as well, a novice. Thanks for the tip, JONJONAUG. I will look in the Article for those issues and glitches. But, I did not delibertly submit false information.
Bluray support
Has anyone confirmed wether or not the ps3 will be able to play bluray movies and not just games,it doesnt seem to be specified.And if it can,it should really be mentioned somewhere in this article,because that would be a marketing advantage for the ps3 as standalone players cost more than the ps3 itself.Rodrigue 23:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
If your TV doesn't support a specific resolution, expect to go low-res.
More bad news for this piece of ****. - http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746282p1.html Zabrak 02:24, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
US Release madness
Is there a specific reason why this article doesn't mention anything about the mass number of people camping out, planning to ebay, etc? To my knowledge there has never been a release of a product with such high demand where supply has been so short. Most stores around me already have at least a few people "camping" outside and some have over a hundred waiting customers. If the news/tech websites are any indication, my area isn't the only place like this. It really does appear to be a notable release. So again, is there a reason why this isn't included in the article? 71.125.145.244 04:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, because your pussy ass did not put in, quit beeing a baby and put it in, if some nerd deletes it, well man up and put it in back in. Zabrak 04:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Before reading this question, I had just finished adding such a section PlayStation_3#Launch-Day_Frenzy. Awakefield 16:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Here's a story about the PS3 Launch campouts in Chicago. Can/should we include this somewhere? bflora 1:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Blu-ray Question
I had heard that the PS3's Blu-ray will imprint a personal tag on any game you play so that the original PS3 used to play the disc will be the only PS3 that can play it ever, as a way of combating piracy. Is this true? --Kansolo 7:40am November 16, 2006 (PST)
Well ive heard that as well, and i believe that you can put the information onto a card or something so you can use it on a different ps3, also, Sam and Chase is gay on Wed-Fri.
Does any of you have any link to where it says "Blu-ray will imprint a personal tag on any game you play so that the original PS3"?? because i didnt hear that.........-= virus =- 0.o 16:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
You can rent PS3 games, so no it does not. Plus, in order to do that the PS3 would likely need a Blu-ray burner, so I wouldn't worry.--DP462090 16:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Price of PS3
How come I got a very different price range for the PS3 in my local area? The article says it can range from $499 to $599, but my local stores say that the price is $700! Is this a mistake in the article, or are stores where I live trying to rip me off? :) semper fi -- Moe 22:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
basic economics question
Are Sony and Microsoft responsible for telling their investors the manufacturing cost of the consoles? How come there are only estimates? another estimate, actually very similar to the estimate in this article. --gatoatigrado 06:50, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
there was a drive by shooting in kentucky for the ps3 and i guess there was someone got shot in the back of the leg. And there was kind of a funny comment and it said that it was a good idea to scare people off to make the line shorter.
PS3 sales numbers
According to media create, PS3 sold 81,639 upon it's launch in Japan. Which numbers should be used, the ones already in the article or these?--Psa- 11:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
~*~*~On the news today it shows the near riots in stores due to the shortages of PS3~*~*~
Seriously, we have to talk about this, I mean i saw 70 rush, push, shove, fight to try to grab 10! Now if people talk about how hundreds of girls ran to see the beatles, or buy their albums, why don't we talk about the hundreds of people rushing to buy the PS3? Oh I take it's worth mentioning when talking about music, but not VIDEOGAMES?! Zabrak 16:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh wait nevermind, it seems that you included info like this already, okay well in that case be sure to LEAVE THIS IN Zabrak 16:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
launch section
I cleaned this up a lot and I hope it didn't lose much. I don't know if the non-violent incidents are worth reporting. I also think the ebay screenshot is a bit unnecessary. [19]. --gatoatigrado 19:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
The last incident has been proven to be a theft by 2 Gamestop employees, faked by them to aquire the stolen systems.[20] Maduin 15:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
expensive ebay console
[21]
You think that's amazing? Take a look at this: [22] :). Although if you look at the edit history all the bids past $5000 are unregistered users... --Yarnalgo 06:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I saw several consoles sell with winning bids of $2200. At least 10 of them. I'd assume that at least one of the buyers will pay that so I've put some relevant information related to those sales. If anyone else has proof of higher priced sales, feel free to add it. -- Suso 17:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
[23] Also this site shows some ridiculous people using sex to sell their PS3 on eBay [24]
wasn't there a confirmed $9,000 sale?Dm-schmieder 04:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
New picture please?
I personally think the one at the moment has too much reflection, you can't read the PLAYSTATION 3 writing on it. PureLegend 22:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
A new PSX?
Hey guys, is SONY going to launch an updated version of the PSX with the cell proccesor, bluetooth and the Blu ray disc reader?
"bluetooth" and "USB" controllers do not respect HID standards, can anyone find citations?
I bought a ps3 controller so I could play games on my powerbook g4 (which has integrated bluetooth). I cannot figure any way to make this lump of plastic do anything as either a bluetooth device, or as a usb device. I would like to warn anyone who has not already bought one of this fact, but I also do not want to disrespect wikipedia's policy on original research. So I'm asking for help finding a citatation. 68.158.174.168 15:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC) Jerry Segers, Jr.
USB is an physical connection standard, electrical interface, communications model and signalling interface. USB also defines several device classes. Only one of them is HID, and a device can be fully USB compatible without being an HID. The ten or so basic classes are more or less expected to behave in standard ways. However, the custom class covers any device that requires special device drivers. I'm not familiar with Bluetooth, but I suspect the situation is similar. Anyway, I don't think the fact that the PS3 controller isn't a HID class is significant in of itself, but I don't see much harm in mentioning (briefly) somewhere that it cannot currently be used with any other devices than a PS3. -- mattb @ 2006-11-19T06:47Z
Self-taken photos of a retail PS3?
Is there any chance someone will take a self-taken photo of their retail PS3 for use on Wikipedia? --Jack Zhang 01:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Lack of 1080i Scaler
Why is this article not a "current event" article status? Anyway, some games and even movies on Blu-Ray are unable to display in HD, for TVs that don't support 1080p or 720p (only supporting 1080i). I think it should be mentioned in this article, as it is an important issue -- IGN.com has done an article on this. The PS3 seems to lack a scaler to scale games or movies into 1080i from a source that's originally 1080p or 720p; meaning that people with HD televisions that only support 1080i won't be able to view their games and some blu-ray movies in HD. Anyone have an idea how I can bypass this issue? External scalers are much too expensive. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.23.51.27 (talk o contribs) .
Image of line
I have an image of the line of tents outside a Best Buy store in Wisconsin from November 16th. Does it belong in the article? Royalbroil Talk Contrib 05:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Another reference
http://www.isuppli.com/news/default.asp?id=6919
"PlayStation 3 Offers Supercomputer Performance at PC Pricing, iSuppli's Teardown Analysis Reveals
November 16, 2006
From delivery delays, to technology hurdles, to missed production targets, to cancelled pre-orders, to an apparently exorbitant price tag--we've all read the bad news regarding Sony Corp.'s much-anticipated new PlayStation 3 video-game console.
Now for the good news: iSuppli Corp.'s dissection reveals the PlayStation 3 is an engineering masterpiece that sets a new high mark for computing price/performance--even when considering it is more expensive than its nearest rival, the Xbox 360 from Microsoft Corp.
"With the PlayStation 3, you are getting the performance of a supercomputer at the price of an entry-level PC," said Andrew Rassweiler, teardown services manager and senior analyst for iSuppli.
Table 1 below presents iSuppli's estimate of major component and subsystem cost drivers for the PlayStation 3.
The combined materials and manufacturing cost of the PlayStation 3 is $805.85 for the model equipped with a 20Gbyte Hard Disk Drive (HDD), and $840.35 for the 60Gbyte HDD version, according to iSuppli's Teardown Analysis service's preliminary estimate of expenses in the fourth quarter. This total doesn't include additional costs for elements including the controller, cables and packaging.
unscrew videos
Just suggesting that a 'PS3 unscrewed' video might be a suitable external link for this article.
Units Sold
Seeing that the ps3 has been out for some time shouldnt there be a more up to date number of units sold instead of the 88k wikipedia has that is from the japanese release date? Ive searched for how many units have been sold in the us and can only find that 88k were sold in japan on its release. Paulm27 01:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I found a site that has constant updates of units sold [[25]], according to this PS3 has sold about 255k,
Article erased
Somebody completely erased the article.
ProductWiki Link
I would like to add a link to ProductWiki's Playstation 3 coverage to the External Links, is this ok?
NVIDIA Info
Anybody planning to add a section regarding the nvidia gpu? Or the seven core CPU for that matter? I was just reading the XBox and XBox 360 articles and they detail the cpu and gpu specifications, and was wondering if it was a matter of just putting it or the fact that there is not enough "for sure" information to detail their specifications...? Bourgeoisdude 20:53, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Of interest, Taco Bell/Boys and Girls club offers "Tacos for Life"
Nov 20, 2006 15:03
Taco Bell(R) Offers Tacos for Life for PlayStation 3
Company Will Then Donate PlayStation 3 to a Boys and Girls Club Teen Center IRVINE, Calif. --(Business Wire)-- Nov. 20, 2006 Now here's an offer to play with: Taco Bell announced today that it is offering a lifetime of Taco Bell(R) food ($12,500 in Taco Bell Bucks) in exchange to the first person who agrees to trade his or her new PlayStation 3 Game Console. Taco Bell will then donate the next generation game console to the Stanton teen center of the Boys & Girls Club. Taco Bell and its Taco Bell Foundation supports teen programs nationwide through the Boys & Girls Clubs of America.
"The PlayStation 3 is on every teen's holiday wish list," said Bob Fulmer, Executive Director, Taco Bell Foundation. "That's why we're offering one lucky individual tacos for life in exchange for giving Boys & Girls Club teens a gift that will keep them in the game."
The tacos will be awarded in the form of $12,500 in TACO BELL(R) Bucks, redeemable at participating Taco Bell(R) locations. The party exchanging the PlayStation 3 is solely responsible for payment of all taxes, income and otherwise, and should consult with his/her tax adviser. Interested PlayStation 3 owners should send their name, email and phone number to tacobellnews@tacobell.com. The first person to respond, based on the time the email is received, and then send their PlayStation 3 will be awarded the Taco Bell Bucks. Offer expires December 1, 2006 at 6:00 p.m. PST.
Edit?
I think that "...Most of the public thought that the PS3 sucks, and the Wii would win the nextgen race, as was true. The Wii did win and the PS3 failed misserably." Should be removed.
Vandalism Again
The article on the PlayStation 3 console has been changed to the simple message "PS2 sucks", and it has been this way all day today. The current status of the article appears to be semi-protected, but the immediately prior version, to which it should be reverted, is fully protected, which means that I can't revert it (but which ought to have meant that the vandalism could not have happened in the first place). I'm afraid I wasn't able to follow the procedure to request protection/unprotection myself. Quadibloc 01:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC) quadibloc 01:36 November 21, 2006 (UTC)
Too many main headings
What are the most important things about a console?
It's hardware, it's software, etc
According to this article it seems like the most important things to a console are its hardware, software the company known as eBay and muggings.
The fact that many people were aware of the economics behind supply and demand and selling something for a loss and that a ton of consoles were put on eBay is a description on the launch, which is a topic actually important to the console. Same with violence on launch. It's a property of the launch, not the most important aspect of the PS3. Also the company is eBay not Ebay. Esper256 17:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Self-Taken Photos
Have read several requests above for a self-taken photo of it.. Easier said than done.. This console is so reflective of all its surroundings.. Placed it on a blue towel alone with no cords or such. Free for use.. I still have the originals if anyone is interested. These are cropped down for size reasons.
Pictures can be seen here: Picture 1 Picture 2 Picture 3 Cjpluta 05:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
To get rid of the nasty reflections, try to illuminate the scene with indirect lighting and/or use a photographic filter. Note how the image from Flickr shines a bright light down onto a white surface, thus lighting the PS3 from below. You could also try increasing the gain on your CCD if your camera has that option. --DavidHOzAu 11:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
You should provide full resolution photos, Wikipedia can generate smaller thumbnails of your pictures without modifying the file. --Jack Zhang 02:03, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Edit? again...
I was reading over the PSP connect section and i found this..
On the main PS3 article, it states..
"The PlayStation Portable can connect with the PS3 in many ways, including game connectivity, such as Formula One 06 shown at E3 2006 which uses the PSP as a rear-view mirror....."
When you click on remote-play link, it shows this.
"So far Sony Computer Entertainment has only announced one title that will work together with Remote Play. Gran Turismo HD has been shown at E3 with the PlayStation Portable acting in-game as a rear view mirror to assist the player in the game."
Im not sure which one is correct, either Gran Turismo HD or Formula one.
Drew, 11/22/2006 --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.184.209.88 (talk o contribs) .
Running Windows XP on Playstation 3
Someone has just compiled QEMU to run Windows XP on Playstation 3. Indeed, the video released on Google Video shows how fast this emulator can emulate the x86 architecture somehow fast enough to run the japanese version of Windows XP. However, it´s seems that using QMEU to run Windows programs on a Playstation 3 can´t be more heavy than old or simple games, or using software like Microsoft Office.85.240.135.51 19:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Units Sold: http://www.nexgenwars.com/?
Is that a reliable source? Valoem talk 07:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I put that in and I thought It seemed reliable but they are only estimates...Thanks for pointing that out Paulm27 19:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
HDCP
Suggestion: ADd to the article that the HDMI output of the PS3 is only capable with HDCP-enabled TVs and monitors. I tried using an HDMI to DVI cable to connect to my computer monitor; I found out later my monitor wasn't HDCP-enabled. An important fact to note, I believe. SpikeX2 07:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
No 1080p games
I think it should be noted that no games currently released, and none currently in production, will play in 1080p. So far the only 1080p is a tech demo of Gran Turismo HD and I think one or two more tech demos... It is said that they cannot get a good framerate at that resolution. With PS3 boasting 1080p it should be noted that only blu-ray movies will play in 1080p, not games. Thesaddestday 04:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
^^^pointless.--- Cry On 18:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
There are very few HDTVs that are 1080p, and all the ones that are don't have HDMI inputs that can handle 1080p. I have a friend who is a TV repairman for Best Buy and he said that either you have to replace the HDMI inputs on current 1080p TVs, most of which are 1080i, or wait until Feburary when the first TVs come out with 1080p HDMIs. Plus when I talk to some people I get the impression that they think just because the PS3 is 1080p they think that their 720p or 1080i TV will have 1080p resolution. IG-2000 05:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
HD Loader for PS3
Hi, i have a question Do you think that a HD Loader will be launched for the PS3? Of coufse, i´m aware that we would need a higher capacity hard disk (maybe 1TB, just like the ones that Dell is using), do you think it would be possible?
Xvid/Divx compatibility?
Has anyone been able to confirm PS3 compatibility with Xvid/Divx formats? I have been unable to confirm anywhere as to whether PS3 will or will not support the playback of this format. --CobraBK 21:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
order of pricing
I am a bit uncomfortable with the order of country in the pricing box. Japanese is number one, that is fine, but why United Kingdom is number 2. We should sort it out according to the release date.--w_tanoto 22:59, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Title?
If the official name of the PlayStation 3 is PLAYSTATION 3, shouldn't that be the title? I knew the previous generations were spelled in the former format. If those consoles' titles were named appropriately, shouldn't this one? Mario1021 03:40, 28 November 2006
Australian Price
So the Australian Price is AU$999 which under the USD column says US$680 but AU$999 is closer US$780. I tried to edit it but someone reverted my edit because I didn't cite a source, I don't see any of the other conversions citing a source, I don't see who ever put $680 citing a source. Put AU$999 in any currency converter and you can cite that as your source. Is there a convention I'm not following?
1080i output issues
Apparently, there is an issue where the 1080i output is broken. Apparently, if the PS3 detects the TV is not capable of a 720p output downrezzes to a 480p output, disregarding 1080i functionality. Here's a link: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/15/720p-ps3-games-downscale-on-older-hd-sets/ . Sony has acknowledged the issue and originally said they are working on a firmware patch. They have since retracted this statement: http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/10807/ Should this be added in? --Tomwchow 00:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
PS3 used by scientists and helpful gamers to cure Alzheimer's!
A recent study by the Folding@Home distributed computing project is harnessing the power of the Cell processor found in the PS3 to study protein folding.
More info can be found here.
72.201.34.105 08:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
PS3 commercial
You know how the guys all go on to their roofs in the PS3 commercial? I think it was to be able to jump high enough when they saw the bill.:)
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